They certainly are not “undocumented”. Illegal aliens have all sorts of documentation, from state governments, from their home countries, and fraudulent, forged and stolen documents with which they use to get jobs illegally.

First the American public some 70% by most polls do not favor rewarding illegal aliens with an amnesty. Most understand that paying a penalty is the same as buying the privilege of breaking the law. Would you allow a car jacker to keep the car he jacked as long as he paid a fine? And what about all those people who followed the rules and are immigrating legally? Are you going to throw them under the bus by allowing illegal aliens to cut into the line?

Amnesty and that is what CIR is, was tried in 1986 and it failed. In 2007 the people of this country rejected it and the number of people against it has grown. CIR is dead, regardless of how much you want it. Politicians know that they will pay the price for supporting it again.

Rayjay & Almed – Over 50% of all illegal aliens in this country are from Mexico. According to a study by the Pew Hispanic center, most illegals from that country had a job before coming to the US. Mexico is not a poor country by international standards. It is ranked 12th. Mexican people are not starving. Has any one seen any pics of peoples from Mexico and south looking emaciated?

Are the illegal alien Hispanics more deserving then the much poorer people from other parts of the world? There are places in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, where people really are starving. Millions of people across the planet would like to immigrate to the US. Because a group of people illegally crossed the border, does that mean they should get preference! Besides isn’t it racist to put one group, race or ethnicity ahead of others?

Free thinker, you need to understand the dynamics of illegal immigration and how the system is functioning. First what makes anyone come to this country? For a small percentage it may be freedom, but for the majority it is economics. They can make more money here with the added benefit of social services. Now if you are an illegal, getting paid in cash, not having any civic responsibilities, why would you want to become legal? Remittances to other countries are possible because illegal aliens are able to game the system. If an illegal alien has an American born child and they show no or little income, that child becomes an economic asset..The child entitles the family to a whole host of social services. Now if that person becomes legal, depending on whether they are still working for cash and how much they earn, they will either lose those entitlements or become eligible for more. If they become legal, they then can legally immigrate their families. Now that in itself would be a good thing if the number was limited and they were economically responsible for those newly arrived family members. But currently the system does not enforce economical responsibility. Those family members could then also use the system and in turn immigrate more family. Immigration today is not like the great wave of the late 1800s, early 1900s. Back then you either made it, starved or returned to your home country.

The ability to pay taxes is based on income. Income is generally based on education. Most illegals in this country have not a high school education. Lower income citizens pay little if any income tax and regardless of status, most low income people use more resources then they contribute to. Immigrants as a whole send a huge amount of money out of this country (gaming the system). While bringing those foreign family members into this country might sound good, what makes up for the difference in cost of living? 500 dollars goes much further in Mexico or South America. Would that 500 bucks support a family in this country for a month? No, so what does the family do? They apply for social services.

The recent ethnically tainted studies indicating that CIR and immigrant growth would stimulate the economy are misleading. The two most recent assume that new immigrants will move up the economic ladder pay more taxes, buy more goods and start more businesses. The question remains is how this will come about? Who will train them, educate them and at what cost? Who will fund their business endeavors? What happens to the previous employed citizens who were displaced? Did they suddenly vanish?

How many people should this country have? How many people can this country support? Those are the real questions that none who support CIR care to talk about. At current rates the population of this country is projected to add 140 million in the next 30-40 years. Population growth is driven by immigration – immigrants and their children. For every new person added to the population it takes 12 acres of undeveloped land to be developed. Added population takes resources we need for future generations. While it is admirable to want to help our fellow human beings, it is not possible to do so by importing them to this country. If the US fails because of population growth, who will then take up the humanitarian cause?

January 2008 = Start of worst Recession in U.S. History?

“The proof is in the pudding”

Coincidence, or Karma?

To: Good and Brotherhood.

People around the world are not too stupid to notice that the US is the strongest and most powerful nation on Earth and that America continues to fight the entire world to provide a better life for its citizens!

About why people choose the illegal path has a very simple answer. It is because the immigration system in the US is BROKEN! You go to 3rd world nations and try to apply for immigration to America and you have %0.001 chance of approval!

People in this country have to understand the roots of the immigration problem before saying that immigrants are stealing their jobs. They are stealing the jobs that they have lost at their home countries because of an irresponsible American foreign policies.

if we only just allowed the type of people who end up immigrating illegally in through some different type of channel (like expanding the H2-A program) or creating an entirely new one, then we would not have the same degree of illegal immigration that we have experienced for decades.

“and the majority of Americans will ban together to fight to the death any proposed reform that will reward this behavior” – wake up!! the majority of the americans do not give a crap about immigration, it is just a loud ignorant minority, go stick to your guns and religion.