s and its not because of them being immigrants or not it because their stupid. look i have friend thats an immigrant shes been here for 15 years shes been here ever since she was 8 or 9 her parents got her here and now her parents are legal because of the clinton bill although she could have been legalize through her parents but she had already turned 21 yrs old and it broke her heart ive known my friend and her parents for a very long time and they’ve done evrything right even before they got legal untill youve known an immigrant personally or friends with one please dont judge. trust me they dont want to take anything from anyone. immigrants could really be a part of helping the U.S Economy because some immigrants do have money because they work so hard and save so much for when they become legal trust me they want to help and pay their do’s.

12million x $3500>immigration processing fee=

12million x $25> drivers license=

12million x $10,000> car =

12million x $200,000> housing=

12million x $15> daily expenses

12million x gas bill

12million x electric bill

12million x water bill

12million x phone bill

12million xxxxxx………..see! these are only rough estimation. how much tax this government can get from this figures. a lot.most of these undocumented are descent and hardworking. yo, give ‘em a chance ,yo. let them live in the ‘hood,brother.

Parts of the Southwest already resemble old Mexico in just the last 10 years. Is this the America we want? How many day laborers do we really need? Importing poverty is not raising the bars for the rest of Americans as we are the ones writing the checks. Legalizing these people opens up every avenue of Social Services.

Wise up all you Lou Dobb Jrs.

Illegal immigrants will keep coming no matter what

(believe me I know first hand)so you better build your grand reform around that fact-

and for all you anti- reform dreamers..Live your own friggin life and let the rest of America do the same without your typical paranoid, conservative asses trying to manipulate them

Make our borders more secure. Do not allow lawbreakers into this Country! Do not use taxpayer money to pay illegal’s entry problems. Force ALL immigrants to obey the LAW!

This is not racisim, this is common sense.

Obama’s only reason for liberal immigration reform is to get more votes from non-citizens.

STOP THE LIES. WAKE UP!

EACH YEAR the US accepts more LEGAL IMMIGRANTS than all the rest of the world’s nations combined, and we’re still told it’s not enough. The media-approved estimate of illegals, 12 million, seems to have remained unchanged over 5 year — for this estimate to be even halfway credible our hobbled border enforcement agents would have to apprehend and deport the perpetrators of at least one-third of all illegal crossings.

Only China and India have larger populations than the US, and the race to number one is a losing strategy for America.

Anyone who spouts that “nation of immigrants” nonsense shows that either his command of English or his command of logic is seriously deficient.

It’s not because they’re from different races or cultures — America will never shut down all immigration — but the fact is that we don’t have the wide open spaces ready to be populated and having superabundant water resources, and every government’s first responsibility is to act within the bounds of morality in the best interests of its citizens.

I’m really sick of living in an American sanctuary city where immigrants are accorded more rights (instate tuition, free medical care, free education, affirmative action, etc.) than US citizens and not routinely deported and where large numbers of permanent residents are displaced by cheaper, unnecessary, imported labor for the benefit of businessmen who are effectively selling an improved chance for US citizenship that is not the corporatists’ property to sell, while generally paying sub-market wages. When America was the wealthiest country in the world, the cosmopolitan benefits of such generous laws may have offset the costs, but we’re now the greatest debtor nation in the world with a rapidly sinking standard of living because of the gross imbalance of trade resulting from the lobbyists’ legal bribes (called “campaign contributions”) for amnesty and still higher immigration quotas.

The US is no longer in a position to solve all the world’s problems or to pay for their solution, but both our populace and our politicians prefer to act in their own individual interests rather than in the interests of America. The H-1B visa has largely made the science and technology departments of our universities into training schools for foreigners, though ~75% of their funding derives from US taxes and gifts (25% foreign admissions and 75% Americans would be far better for America’s future than 90% foreign graduate admissions seen in many schools). Even while America has been exporting technical jobs, technology, and wealth at breakneck speeds (and giving investment tax credits to those who do so), corporatists are still campaigning vigorously for an increase in H-1B visas, increasing the supply many times the demand, and therefore driving down the economic incentive for Americans to pursue degrees that take 4-6 years and put the another $100K in debt, while keeping them out of the public labor market and making them put their personal lives on hold for another 4-6 years. As an immigration lawyer admitted under my questioning while he was arguing for more H-1B visas, he wouldn’t want his kids to major in math or the sciences. Why not? Because there are easier ways to make a living, a clear admission that the work visa programs have so distorted the US pay structure that it is seriously distorting the division of labor and development of our native resources — why should a mathematically talented student major in math or the sciences when he can make more money and have a more normal family life as a quantitative financial analyst rather than as a lifetime 80-hour/week servant of science for the gross enrichment of a few corporatists who are selling us down the river?

I’m sure that contributors to this forum are trying to be good people, but I believe they’re shutting their eyes to the problems that the large-scale immigration they promote, is causing in the country for which they profess their love.

Political logic suggests that immigration reform is more likely to be accomplished by a Republican Administration than a Democrat one – just as it was Democrat Bill Clinton that succeeded in passing free trade legislation (NAFTA).

Immigration activists should remember that it was Republicans George Bush and John McCain that actually tried to make progress on the issue – then you all stabbed them in the back to worship your Obamessiah, who will soon turn out to be your False Prophet, all promises and no action. If you insist on clinging to outdated party allegiance rather than supporting those who advance your goals, you have only yourselves to blame for the results.

1. If America needs to be changed then why are so many people around the world risking their lives to come here?

2. If America does change will the climate exist where people will continue to flock here?

3. If not where will the people of the world who seek better lives, freedom, and prosperity look in the future?

4. If America is no longer the bastion of Freedom it once was will Freedom in the hearts and minds of the people die, along with many innovations and advances for mankind?